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	<title>Comments on: Review &#8211; Accessibility Kit for SharePoint – Half Finished Product?</title>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, thanks for the review and Michael, I might be looking into your unofficial AKS. What a frustrating experience! Couldn&#039;t install the (free) AKS 2 trimmed control that is needed to accomplish XHTML conformance nor the publishing token that is needed to run the HCCE engine. Found out that there is a problem trying to install more than one adapter as supplied in the kit. I came away with a real feeling of bait and switch. The AKS 2 is the bait and if/when it can&#039;t be installed the switch to their commercial offerings (not free) is the solution. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, thanks for the review and Michael, I might be looking into your unofficial AKS. What a frustrating experience! Couldn&#8217;t install the (free) AKS 2 trimmed control that is needed to accomplish XHTML conformance nor the publishing token that is needed to run the HCCE engine. Found out that there is a problem trying to install more than one adapter as supplied in the kit. I came away with a real feeling of bait and switch. The AKS 2 is the bait and if/when it can&#8217;t be installed the switch to their commercial offerings (not free) is the solution. <img src='http://www.lifeonplanetgroove.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Toth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Toth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your efforts, it looks very promising. I don&#039;t know the accessibility story yet for SharePoint 2010, but I am starting to go through the videos from SPC 09 now. I have a feeling a lot will need to change, and an entirely different AKS will need to be created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your efforts, it looks very promising. I don&#8217;t know the accessibility story yet for SharePoint 2010, but I am starting to go through the videos from SPC 09 now. I have a feeling a lot will need to change, and an entirely different AKS will need to be created.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Flanakin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Flanakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really appreciate you taking the time to write this up. It gave me some very good insight before I dug too much into what HiSoftware has. Unfortunately, I&#039;m somewhat stuck with AKS for the time being. With that said, I&#039;ve taken what was in AKS 2.0 and created a new, unaffiliated project on Codeplex. If you or anyone else are interested, please check out the [unofficial] Accessibility Kit for SharePoint (uAKS) @ http://aks.codeplex.com. I&#039;m working on cleaning up all of the issues you mentioned, but could definitely use some help. I think uAKS 0.3 will be something people will actually get some real value out of, but have some ideas for 3 additional releases that seem to be needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate you taking the time to write this up. It gave me some very good insight before I dug too much into what HiSoftware has. Unfortunately, I&#8217;m somewhat stuck with AKS for the time being. With that said, I&#8217;ve taken what was in AKS 2.0 and created a new, unaffiliated project on Codeplex. If you or anyone else are interested, please check out the [unofficial] Accessibility Kit for SharePoint (uAKS) @ <a href="http://aks.codeplex.com" rel="nofollow">http://aks.codeplex.com</a>. I&#8217;m working on cleaning up all of the issues you mentioned, but could definitely use some help. I think uAKS 0.3 will be something people will actually get some real value out of, but have some ideas for 3 additional releases that seem to be needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, couldn&#039;t agree more. What a total shambles. Not only does this shoddy kit reflect poorly on HiSoftware but it reflects even worse on Microsoft who clearly are not even pretending to care about accessibility in SharePoint. This is a real stumbling block at my workplace where we are having problems getting MOSS implemented because of poor readability (for a few colleagues who are descended from Badgers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, couldn&#8217;t agree more. What a total shambles. Not only does this shoddy kit reflect poorly on HiSoftware but it reflects even worse on Microsoft who clearly are not even pretending to care about accessibility in SharePoint. This is a real stumbling block at my workplace where we are having problems getting MOSS implemented because of poor readability (for a few colleagues who are descended from Badgers).</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I googled the symptoms of the frustration I was having and found your blog. It&#039;s a comfort to know I am not alone, the product is rubbish, and I am not going mad.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I googled the symptoms of the frustration I was having and found your blog. It&#8217;s a comfort to know I am not alone, the product is rubbish, and I am not going mad.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Beryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long did it take you to write this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long did it take you to write this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review. The AKS is something that has come up a few times, but so far we&#039;ve not had cause to use.

It&#039;s a real shame, as the idea (particularly for collaboration sites) seems a good one - and Microsoft have basically ignored accessibility in SharePoint 2007. Here in the UK, though, it&#039;s important for Government work.

Making fonts relative *is* going to take ages of fiddling, but it is something that would need to be done. It&#039;s harsh, but that&#039;s just a cost that you&#039;d need to bear. 

Weird that you have to publish the master pages/styles before SPD can see them. They ought to be in the virtual file system. Were you using SPD and IE as different users?

Oh, and FYI, Telerik&#039;s RadEditor is WCAG &#039;A&#039; compliant, apparently - http://demos.telerik.com/aspnet-classic/editor/Examples/AccessibilityCompliance/DefaultCS.aspx . aRTE is &#039;ARIA&#039; compliant, which isn&#039;t a standard that I&#039;ve heard about. Our customers always talk about WCAG compliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review. The AKS is something that has come up a few times, but so far we&#8217;ve not had cause to use.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real shame, as the idea (particularly for collaboration sites) seems a good one &#8211; and Microsoft have basically ignored accessibility in SharePoint 2007. Here in the UK, though, it&#8217;s important for Government work.</p>
<p>Making fonts relative *is* going to take ages of fiddling, but it is something that would need to be done. It&#8217;s harsh, but that&#8217;s just a cost that you&#8217;d need to bear. </p>
<p>Weird that you have to publish the master pages/styles before SPD can see them. They ought to be in the virtual file system. Were you using SPD and IE as different users?</p>
<p>Oh, and FYI, Telerik&#8217;s RadEditor is WCAG &#8216;A&#8217; compliant, apparently &#8211; <a href="http://demos.telerik.com/aspnet-classic/editor/Examples/AccessibilityCompliance/DefaultCS.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://demos.telerik.com/aspnet-classic/editor/Examples/AccessibilityCompliance/DefaultCS.aspx</a> . aRTE is &#8216;ARIA&#8217; compliant, which isn&#8217;t a standard that I&#8217;ve heard about. Our customers always talk about WCAG compliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

Couldn&#039;t agree more with your review. I am looking at the AKS v2 with a view to implement it on a client site, and I can&#039;t believe how shoddy it is! I think though that it&#039;s focus, if you were to use it at all, should be for public facing internet sites, and not collaboration portals. 

That being said, I anticipate having to write my own control adapters to get it to work correctly (for example a web part zone adapter that works properly). I also think the master pages they supply don&#039;t do enough in producing clean XHTML markup (still tables everywhere), so I will have to produce my own there too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more with your review. I am looking at the AKS v2 with a view to implement it on a client site, and I can&#8217;t believe how shoddy it is! I think though that it&#8217;s focus, if you were to use it at all, should be for public facing internet sites, and not collaboration portals. </p>
<p>That being said, I anticipate having to write my own control adapters to get it to work correctly (for example a web part zone adapter that works properly). I also think the master pages they supply don&#8217;t do enough in producing clean XHTML markup (still tables everywhere), so I will have to produce my own there too</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Toth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Toth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points &quot;Concerned&quot;. I didn&#039;t even try the aRTE. I figured why bother, when you can use the Telerik RTE that is probably much more accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points &#8220;Concerned&#8221;. I didn&#8217;t even try the aRTE. I figured why bother, when you can use the Telerik RTE that is probably much more accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, thanks for taking the time to write this up.
I don&#039;t personally think that HiSoft have a solid understanding of accessbility, their aRTE shipped with an inaccessible PDF instruction manual, which meant even if their editor was accessible, people who don&#039;t have vision couldn&#039;t read how to use it.

Looking to the HiSoft site is hard work as their own pages don&#039;t contain any headings and break the very basics of accessibility guidlines...try it yourself:

Go to:
http://www.hisoftware.com/products/CS_Accessibility.html
 
View source on the page

Do a &#039;Find&#039; for H1 , H2, H3 

HiSoft need to do some more work and understand what acessibility really means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, thanks for taking the time to write this up.<br />
I don&#8217;t personally think that HiSoft have a solid understanding of accessbility, their aRTE shipped with an inaccessible PDF instruction manual, which meant even if their editor was accessible, people who don&#8217;t have vision couldn&#8217;t read how to use it.</p>
<p>Looking to the HiSoft site is hard work as their own pages don&#8217;t contain any headings and break the very basics of accessibility guidlines&#8230;try it yourself:</p>
<p>Go to:<br />
<a href="http://www.hisoftware.com/products/CS_Accessibility.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hisoftware.com/products/CS_Accessibility.html</a></p>
<p>View source on the page</p>
<p>Do a &#8216;Find&#8217; for H1 , H2, H3 </p>
<p>HiSoft need to do some more work and understand what acessibility really means.</p>
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